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INTEREST: Vivy -Fluorite Eye's Song- Writers Explain Why the Anime Won't Get a Second Season




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Soulwarfare



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:00 pm Reply with quote
If anyone has watched the series then they will know that it was a satisfying ending without a need for a season 2.

I don't know anyone who asked for a season 2 of Vivy
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Greed1914



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:21 pm Reply with quote
Soulwarfare wrote:
If anyone has watched the series then they will know that it was a satisfying ending without a need for a season 2.

I don't know anyone who asked for a season 2 of Vivy


I was thinking the same. The conclusion was definitive enough that the only way to do another season would be other characters in the same setting, which wouldn't have much point.
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Thespacemaster



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:01 pm Reply with quote
A lot of people have been getting spoiled with all the new season annoucements in the past few years.

If u go back like in the 2000s and earlier we had plenty of anime original stories that concluded in just one airing and a lot of them are still instant classics.

I rather have a short but good and conclusive story than a dragged out and incomplete story like 90% of most anime are.
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Angel M Cazares



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 2:09 pm Reply with quote
I get wanting sequel seasons for anime and LN adaptations, but not for original anime, especially if they have satisfying endings.
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moroboshi-kun



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:12 pm Reply with quote
This is one my absolute favorite shows this year, but I'm with everyone else here - it really doesn't need another season.

I'd actually rather see this creative team do something new than try to beat a dead horse...
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MagicPolly



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:19 pm Reply with quote
It always confuses me when people want second seasons to shows (especially originals) that already ended conclusively or don't have any more to adapt. If they made a second season for Vivy it would just feel like a needless filler cash grab
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SilverTalon01



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:45 pm Reply with quote
Soulwarfare wrote:
If anyone has watched the series then they will know that it was a satisfying ending without a need for a season 2.

I don't know anyone who asked for a season 2 of Vivy


Well said. They nailed the ending, and that is apparently pretty hard to do based on how many series fail at it. No need to run the series into the ground.
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xxmsxx



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:10 pm Reply with quote
MagicPolly wrote:
it would just feel like a needless filler cash grab


I think that is exactly why season twos get greenlit in the first place: to make more money. Lots of Production Committee out there have very little regard for "story" or "plot" or "character development", as long as it is somewhat sensible and heck a lot of times it really isn't, they will move ahead with more content.

But very few has the ability to say what Nagatsuki said, which is "I don't think we could add another cour to the story, even if the first was a smash hit and got rave reviews." In an industry that has razor thin profit margins, PCs do everything they can to make more cash.

Yes, it often destroys the story. But a lot of time that was never a priority in the first place.
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DRosencraft



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:13 pm Reply with quote
My non-cynical take is that when a series is successful, it's because it manages to grab people's attention, and gets them to fall in love with that world and its characters. Therefore, the want of a second season from people is because they don't want to be separated from that, they'd like it to keep going. Not to paint too morbid a picture, but it's like if you've got an elderly relative whose "done it all" and you say, "well, you lived a good life. The memories are enough for me. Time to pull the plug. You've done enough stuff."

But, I do agree the ending was very good. If, as is the case here, the people behind that don't think there's anything to add, then so be it. But I wouldn't forestall any series' potential for a continuation unless that was what the creators felt.
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Jeff Bauersfeld



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:23 pm Reply with quote
A one-and-done story? This will have to move up higher on my to-watch list then. As others have said, it's nice to have a short, complete story when we are seemingly awash in drawn out, incomplete ones.
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The interview also reveals another fact about the anime's planned story length. Although the conceived as a one-cour series, it was only later in development that it was given 13 episodes instead of 12. Nagatsuki said that he and Umehara begged the producer to add one more episode after the two encountered difficulties telling the story of the first two episodes within a single episode. "It would have been near impossible to fit everything into 12 episodes," he remarked.

That got me thinking: given the prevalence of anime fitted to cour length (or integer multiples of), the industry is mangling stories that don't fit neatly into cour(s). Stories that need, say, 16 episodes get cut into 12-13 episodes/one-cour, or 20 episodes get filler-ed up into 24-26 episodes/two-cours.

There are exceptions like the recent To Your Eternity and Jahy-sama; hopefully this opens up anime to more stories of irregular length.
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xxmsxx



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:48 am Reply with quote
tsog wrote:
hopefully this opens up anime to more stories of irregular length.


I think it started as seasonal TV slots. It has persisted over the years because even if it is late night anime, it still airs on some TV station. However, with more and more shows debuting on streaming only, the format of cours will likely adapt.

Aggretsuko comes to mind, but even an older show like Hetalia was stream only (although it was not planned to be initially).
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a_Bear_in_Bearcave



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:33 am Reply with quote
SilverTalon01 wrote:
Soulwarfare wrote:
If anyone has watched the series then they will know that it was a satisfying ending without a need for a season 2.

I don't know anyone who asked for a season 2 of Vivy


Well said. They nailed the ending, and that is apparently pretty hard to do based on how many series fail at it. No need to run the series into the ground.

I wouldn't say they've nailed the ending, the whole second half of anime was noticeably weaker than first, and the ending didn't really touch the themes the series seemed to care about, but I don't see any way second season could make that story better. For better or for worse, the story of Vivy is finished and should stay that way.
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