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REVIEW: Absolute Duo BD+DVD


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Snakebit1995



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 9:57 am Reply with quote
It's rare to see a series get below a C- here but a D, wow. Not saying this isn't deserved Absolute Duo is one of the most cliche LN shovel-ware series, this wasn't even one of those shows that isn't good but gets saved by a decent dub.

The fact that the only Positive for this series is "The Audio Commentary was fun because they talked about nothing relevant to the show" should tell you everything you need to know. I can tell you from experience, I tried and couldn't even stay on passed 3/4 of the way though episode 1.
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sailorsweeper



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:08 am Reply with quote
I watched about 90% of show and yeah it was cliche as what and I find funny that the best part of release is unrelated to the show for the most part. This show shows why I love commentaries since they can save a release not completely though
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SquadmemberRitsu



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:21 am Reply with quote
I checked out this show on Animelab just cause the dub was there (Which is a very hit and miss affair) and it had a few of my favourite voice actors. But boy, it is literally exactly what I expected it be. Probably not even that good. Every moment of this show that looked like it was leading somewhere interesting was always undercut by a really awkwardly shoehorned in scene or a plot convenience so the writer could stay within his boring little Light Novel comfort zone.

This is the problem with a lot of anime (Particularly Light Novels). They're not written by creators, they're written by fans. Not creators who just happen to be fans. Plain old fans. They have a deep admiration for these shows and they try so hard to replicate what they did. But they have no idea what made those shows resonate with so many people nor do they have any sort of creative spark.

I know SAO is the anime fandom's punching bag but trust me when I say there's a reason why SAO has captured the hearts of so many while shows like this bomb and fail to develop any real fanbase in spite of having those tropes that the otaku love.

I liked the OP though.
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Vaisaga



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:16 am Reply with quote
Definitely think you're being too harsh on the show. It actually stands above its ilk because of the minor ways it's different. So minor that it is easy to miss unless you're a big fan of the genre like me.

I suppose the big one would be Toru and Julie's relationship. While there's a few pervy moments between them, their relationship is more father-daughter than it is a potential couple. I'd say Miyabi was his only serious love interest and the way they handled that was one of the more memorable parts of the show.

Simply from an adaptation standpoint it's a lot better than other Light Novel shows. Rather than try to cram in as much as possible and give it that rushed feeling, a lot of things are cut and condensed in a smart manner.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:25 am Reply with quote
I'm just glad I bought it on super sale. I wouldn't rate it as low as Theron but I would hardly give it high marks. I did go into it knowing what I was getting and I was just hoping to be entertained. So in that regard it worked. It was full of cliche's which aren't bad in themselves if executed properly & efficiently.
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GhostD



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:44 am Reply with quote
Looks like Theron and I were thinking the same thing about the broadcast dub. When Funi first started doing it I thought it was their way of dubbing it to see if fans like it and then they release it on Blu Ray while training their newer VAs and giving the others a little more experience at the same time. For that they dubbed some lesser known series like Absolute Duo, Dagashi Kashi, etc. I suspected this because it seems like the voice acting was more solid in more well known series like Assassination Classroom and Highschool D X D for instance.

Assuming that my guess is true then I feel sorry for the shows as they're being treated like forgetful training dummies for new VAs.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:56 am Reply with quote
Vaisaga wrote:
Definitely think you're being too harsh on the show. It actually stands above its ilk because of the minor ways it's different. So minor that it is easy to miss unless you're a big fan of the genre like me.

I suppose the big one would be Toru and Julie's relationship. While there's a few pervy moments between them, their relationship is more father-daughter than it is a potential couple. I'd say Miyabi was his only serious love interest and the way they handled that was one of the more memorable parts of the show.

Oh, I'll give you that the Tor/Julie relationship was one of the better parts, but that's still nothing extraordinary; The Asterisk War did the dynamic much better, for instance, even though it wasn't a great series itself.

And yes, I was referring to Miyabi in my comments about what I thought was the best content in the series. Frankly, that's the main reason why I didn't give the writing an F.

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Simply from an adaptation standpoint it's a lot better than other Light Novel shows. Rather than try to cram in as much as possible and give it that rushed feeling, a lot of things are cut and condensed in a smart manner.

"Cut and condensed"? Sure. "Smart manner?" Uh, no.
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Vaisaga



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:32 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:
"Cut and condensed"? Sure. "Smart manner?" Uh, no.


Well I suppose one would actually need to read the novels to know what I was talking about.

For example: spoiler[the mall attack was lead by some nameless soldier who later appears on the island seeking revenge. He goes after Miyabi with the intent to rape her until the others save her. The anime smartly omitted him entirely and had K be the one lead the mall attack.]

Similarly, spoiler[Miyabi actually leaves the island with the rest of the students and goes about her normal days until later when she's given the Unit and gets brainwashed. The anime condenses that to having her go missing on the island and show up brainwashed after.]

For the final battle, spoiler[in the novel it ended after K's first defeat. He gets arrested and in the next novel he escapes, steals Destruction, and attacks the school again. The anime combines the two together by having Equipment Smith carry Destruction with him and K killing him to get it (Equipment Smith is killed by some one else in the book).]

I consider that smart adaptation work, as it condensed things yet still tied events together in a way that doesn't lose anything important. Compare it to, say, Unlimited Fafnir that cut a lot of stuff but as a result lost of a lot explanations for how the world works.
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KH91



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:44 pm Reply with quote
The best 3 things about AD are:

3. Ending songs(especially 2nd theme)
2. Opening
1. spoiler[Miyabi]
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They even retained Julie's supposedly Nordic-themed way of saying “yes” and “no,” but it doesn't come off any less corny in English than it did in Japanese.

Is there a way for me to check this out somehow without having to buy the series? Anime in general has thrown around a lot of Nordic names, terms and references, but I don't think I've ever heard a Nordic language being spoken in anime before. (Or attempted spoken, at any rate.) Well... not counting Scandinavian dubs of Ghibli movies.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:52 pm Reply with quote
I also liked the ending songs and also that part in the opening where Tor and Julie start dancing. Otherwise I thought this was a fairly standard show of this type with no real surprises.

Edit: No wait I forgot, spoiler[Miyabi actually confessed her love to Tor.] That was actually surprising and something I'd like to see more often than the typical beating around the bush we have in these shows.
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L'Imperatore



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:19 pm Reply with quote
Northlander wrote:
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They even retained Julie's supposedly Nordic-themed way of saying “yes” and “no,” but it doesn't come off any less corny in English than it did in Japanese.

Is there a way for me to check this out somehow without having to buy the series?

My memory's kinda vague, but the only "Nordic" things she says are "Ja" and "Nein".
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:20 pm Reply with quote
Psycho 101 wrote:
I'm just glad I bought it on super sale. I wouldn't rate it as low as Theron but I would hardly give it high marks. I did go into it knowing what I was getting and I was just hoping to be entertained. So in that regard it worked. It was full of cliche's which aren't bad in themselves if executed properly & efficiently.


though i wouldn't necessarily give it a D all the way. AD is a C- at minimum.

Sure, their are definitely fatal flaws which would more than warrant a perishable in shelf life standards,but this is to expected from a series that is based off of a light novel series. and just like with world break, sky wizards academy, Kyokai Senjou no Horizon & especially Infinite Stratos and Toaru Majustu no Index, their too faithful to the LN resulting in their series ending very short and its last episode feels incomplete, literately screaming for a new season,where their light novel counterparts still continue with the storyline. and like those other series AD suffered that curse since those 12 eps only cover the surface of the LN's storyline, and to continue you have to read the original source materials. and since its a LN that is also in the harem genre ,it have to compete with the likes of highschool dxd and shinmai mao no testament which more or less sets the bar for the harem genre and series that are adapted from Light Novels. so while is not a bad series at the slightest, its definitely not a good one either. the only thing that can save AD at this point is a second season though that is highly unlikely considering its light novels weren't that popular to begin with.

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These deficiencies aren't limited to the action scenes either. For a 12 episode series, the plot is remarkably thin:


that's no surprise. its adapted from a LN that isn't very popular,so i wouldn't hold that against it since there are other series (shinmai mao no testament) that completely ignores the plot and go all into fanservice mode ala ToLove RU Darkness.
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Animegomaniac



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:59 pm Reply with quote
Absolute Duo is mediocre in a time when even the simplest shows have some kind of visual flare or story hook. Its drab visuals and "We are wacky characters! Like us!" of the teacher and Muscles would certainly earned the show a D around ten years ago... even Gonzo at its worst was never this bad; I finished Glass Fleet even if I still don't know why. Worst of all, Absolute Duo commits the greatest sin any anime could, it's boring.

I like Sky Wizards Academy, I like World Break, I can even see some good qualities in Dragonar Academy... there are other problems I'm having with finishing that one... but I just can't find a reason to finish Absolute Duo.

Ja, it earns an F from me. There's the best word for it from the User's Poll: "Weak". When you think "weak", think Absolute Duo.

It'd probably be the only time you think of it.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:59 pm Reply with quote
Damn, and I enjoyed the series too. Miyabi is a great character, and I really liked Julie too. But I also really enjoyed the other two series that were panned first episode, World Break and especially Unlimited Fafnir.

I guess my taste in anime must be shit.
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