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NEWS: Kimagure Orange Road Kickstarter Funds 5th Omnibus Volume


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GATSU



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 7:09 am Reply with quote
And remember. There are still plenty of high-end [no pun intended] figures and cels left to purchase for this Kickstarter. So if you've been sitting on the fence, now's your chance to nab 'em. Cool
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 7:53 am Reply with quote
Are there any major difference between the anime and the manga? Personally, I'd rather just own the anime if the two mediums are too similar.
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 8:40 am Reply with quote
There are major differences between the anime and manga versions. They start at the same place and end up at the same resolution but in between, not so much. Even when the anime adapts a plot line directly from the manga the details are changed significantly. If nothing else, the manga takes place over four years while the anime only two. Being too specific would involve major spoilers.

In any case, the anime has been out of print for several years and doesn't seem likely to get a rescue.

Keep in mind that both versions are episodic. They make only small moves to the eventual ending of high school graduation and the public choice of romantic partners.
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 11:23 am Reply with quote
A part of me wants to support this, since I've always liked older anime/manga and have a soft spot for romantic comedies, but the other part of me doesn't think I have the patience to make it through 18 volumes of stagnant, wishy-washy rom-com antics Confused

I also wish the books weren't campaign-exclusive, and were actually sold elsewhere, even if only TRSI-exclusive or something. This is the kind of series where I'd prefer to grab the first omnibus just to try it, and then pick up additional ones periodically if I found myself liking it, but if you want the physical books you have to buy them in bulk, and there's no way I'm gonna blind-buy an entire series for $170.
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 2:11 pm Reply with quote
doubleO7 wrote:
A part of me wants to support this, since I've always liked older anime/manga and have a soft spot for romantic comedies, but the other part of me doesn't think I have the patience to make it through 18 volumes of stagnant, wishy-washy rom-com antics Confused

I also wish the books weren't campaign-exclusive, and were actually sold elsewhere, even if only TRSI-exclusive or something. This is the kind of series where I'd prefer to grab the first omnibus just to try it, and then pick up additional ones periodically if I found myself liking it, but if you want the physical books you have to buy them in bulk, and there's no way I'm gonna blind-buy an entire series for $170.


This is exactly how I feel about it. I'm curious about this, but not enough to plunge in all the way, and if it's not likely that I can eventually finish it, I don't feel particularly motivated to even try volume 1.
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 3:49 pm Reply with quote
Look, if you don't want it, then don't buy it. 'Cus it's obvious you wouldn't, even if those conditions were met. But if you want to make comparisons, then it's still a better deal than Skip Beat! At this same point, you'd still have to pay an extra $40,000 to finalize an official release of only a fraction of the content of that manga. And then it's still not on Blu-Ray. Here, OTOH, you get the entire story, and it's complete, and not on-going, because the author been padding it out for the last 15 years. Anyway, it's only about $10,000 to the end and less than 8 days to make it happen.

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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 8:31 pm Reply with quote
@doubleO7

The romance in question is neither stale or wishy-washy, though I doubt you would take my word.

For what it is worth, the whole thing is available in digital form. You could buy the first volume for about $6 from emanga.com and try it. You can get it in PDF format and watch on your computer or in a dozen different formats for other devices. Even if, like me, you don't like digital releases, reading one volume that way will not hurt you.

If you are not willing to go that far, no discussion will change your mind.
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 9:40 pm Reply with quote
I'll state up-front that I have no interest in the series, but I feel that those voicing discontent at the way the books will (apparently) be distributed have fair concerns. I wouldn't like to be faced with a "Buy the whole series now or you'll never get a second chance" choice, for a series I thought might be interesting but wasn't 100% sold on or couldn't afford all at once.

If this is the only way for the title to get a physical release, then I guess everyone just has to accept it for what it is and make their choice, but when every other US manga publisher is able to get its books out to actual bookstores and comic shops and online vendors for customers to buy when and where they feel comfortable, it just seems weird. Maybe that's what DMP is now, a publisher with little extra budget (so it needs to fundraise for almost every release) and no warehouse space to store extra books, and we just have to accept that too? (...I'm still in the process of accepting that I'll likely never get to read the rest of Itazura na Kiss in English.)
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 9:56 pm Reply with quote
@lys

Fair enough, I personally really dislike DMP in general for the same reason you have given, they have abandoned several series I was following. However, I really like Kimagure Orange Road and would buy it even if it was (shudder) TokyoPop who was putting it out. I still recommend anyone who is interested and can afford it to contribute.

Frankly I have no idea why they can't print more copies than necessary. The one saving grace to this whole mess is that they are committed to publishing the whole thing at this point.
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 10:51 pm Reply with quote
lys: You just answered your own question about why KOR is being handled this way. DMP tried a more traditional release of Itazura Na Kiss, and it didn't work out. But, as you can tell, this KS is a lot more effective. Either way, though, even if Itazura had made it to the end of its U.S. run, it would still not be complete, because of the author's tragic death. KOR, OTOH, is complete. So, again, it's still a better deal.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2016 4:32 am Reply with quote
Alan45 wrote:
Frankly I have no idea why they can't print more copies than necessary. The one saving grace to this whole mess is that they are committed to publishing the whole thing at this point.

Which was the only negative for me, and now I've no issue with this. Still a pretty penny to buy, but I'm planning on doing so, and the main reason is I don't view KOR as a series that would've been released (in print) any other way.

The anime is OOP, and even that looks like something that may only change through crowd funding. This is a series that was done before I was born. It's 30 next year. Doesn't seem like the series did high enough digital numbers to warrant a traditional print run, so this is what they've done to give people a chance at having the series on a shelf.

As for not printing more copies than necessary...they kind of are. But, even those numbers will be small. Potentially, there may be 600 additional copies per volume printed.

I know very little about the series, but do know it's reputation, which is why this KS interested me. Plus, if I don't end up enjoying the series...having it in print allows me to sell off my copies.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2016 5:31 am Reply with quote
Ali: Ironically, the KOR anime was originally released here through proto-crowdfunding, where Animeigo would log a quota of of early adopter fans who would pay up for boxsets, thus justifying an attempt to acquire the series in the first place. I did try to get Anime Sols to bring it back, though. And ideally on Blu-Ray for an anniversary release. But Shueisha and/or Pierrot are run by gate-keeping dicks who'd rather have it pirated than make it available here at a competitive price. Still, at least now the guy can finally get paid directly for his work, and without middlemen cutting into his revenue.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2016 8:14 am Reply with quote
@Ali07

In the late 1990s Animeigo used something very like crowdfunding to issue the KOR anime. They asked people to commit to buying the first half of the show on VHS if they could get enough backers. I came in on the tail end of that when they announced it was shipping. I also committed to the second half. A few years later they reissued the series on DVD as a set, which I still have. It was later available from them as singles as long as they had the license.

In the same time frame Diamond, the comics wholesaler, offered the Japanese hard back reprint on a monthly basis, complete in ten volumes. As I had found a complete text translation online, I bought that. I found out the hard way that trying to read the text, either on screen or on a printed version and looking at the book at the same time is a very difficult way to enjoy a manga. I had only gotten about five volumes read since then.

I really dislike digital versions of books. However, when I found out that KOR was available in a digital form, I bought it as being better than nothing. I'm now overjoyed to be able to obtain a printed version in English.

Oddly, a couple of random images of Madoka Ayukawa were the earliest anime related things I was exposed to before I got into anime. I later found that they had come from an art book by the character designer of the anime Akemi Takada. She was also the character designer for the Patlabor series among others.

As of 9am EST they are over $110,500 with eight days to go.
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GATSU wrote:
DMP tried a more traditional release of Itazura Na Kiss, and it didn't work out. But, as you can tell, this KS is a lot more effective..


Oh yeah poor Itazura na Kiss. When Digital Manga was putting out hints for this campaign I was hoping they had worked something out and it was instead Itazura na Kiss. Last I remember they were blaming the hiatus on distribution and unlike KOR there is no digital edition available. Sad
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2016 4:02 pm Reply with quote
kats: Well, I just tried to suggest something Itazura na Kiss-related, so maybe it'll work out. Cross your fingers, at least.

Anyway, $7,000 to the end, now. And less than a week to go.
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