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NEWS: Viz Edits Fullmetal Alchemist

I don't tolerate cencorship, no matter how small it is.

Viz can kiss the fatest part of my ass.

Oh...well I guess I don't like Disney anymore.

To the people saying radical Christians would have been offended long before the cross scene you really don't understand radical Christians in America.

99% of those Christians that censor and often successfully get books from being sold in bookstores and read in schools have never read those books nor ever will but they demand them to be censored.

All it would take is some fundie like James Dobson to raise holy hell about the FMA crucifiction scene and manga could very well be endangered in this country. It doesn't matter if they don't read it, it matters that they get some visual of this supposed blasmpehmy against them then they get up all in arms.

I mean seriously do any of you not understand that fundies are the most ignorant people on the earth and are sheep to their ignorant pastors?

Seriously have you heard fundie rants against Evolutionary Biology not a single one of these fundies even knows what Evolutionary biology actually says yet they constantly get lawmakers to make the teaching of evolution illegal or water downed. They pressure teachers to not teach sound science but instead teach debunked/admitted false Biblical based science which is illegal to teach since it isn't science or even factual but a religious dogma.

You people stating that viz didn't have to do the edit have no idea about the influence of fundies in this country. Manga is a vulernable industry as of now. When it was largely underground it was relatively safe. Most manga series don't break even.

As for being sued guess what Viz can be and it wouldn't be dismissed on first amendment grounds. Nor would Viz get a settlement if the case was thrown out they would lose a lot of money defending themselves.

There are several lawmakers in this country wanting to pass laws to make scenes like the FMA crufiction one illegal and have people arrested. Guess what those laws nearly got passed and a lot of people voting for Republicans want them to be passed. If you bother to investiage the Religous Right you will see a lot of them state that the First Amendemnt only applies to Christians and that mocking Christianity should be illegal since it wouldn't be protected by the First Amendment. These Christians btw have taking over a lot of school boards and teach this crap to students in electives paid for by American tax dollars. In numerous polls most answered that mocking Christianity or anything appearing to do so must be made illegal.

I'm very disappointed by Arakawa's approval of this edit. She likely doesn't understand the state of rabid religious fervor in America and why it needs to be fought. I guess there's not much more reason to complain, since they got her approval, but I'm upset that Viz can get away with this kind of thing.

Okay, Viz, has there been enough of an uproar to release an "uncut special edition" yet? You know you want to! Heck, you've already established a precedent with the Naruto DVDs!

me wrote:

\I was recently reading a journal about a supernova that occured 4.5 billion years ago. Of course it was so far away that the light from the explosion has only now recently reached us. Interesting enough, most supernovas exibit Gamma ray bursts that will usually last less than a minute. But this one was different. It had a massive gamma radiation release, it lasted 33 minutes. It released enough radiation to not only destroy all life in the galaxy in which the star once stood(about 300,000 light years), but enough to destroy all life in all of its surrounding galaxies(millions of light years). Now there is of course no way to know if any life was actually terminated during this massive display of nature. But no force could ever stop this brutal assault. One can only assume that among the millions of solar systems that were doused with this extremly hot massive radiation, that in Sagan's words, "Statistically life is probable". But atleast in that part of our little Universe, it is fairly certain there is none, or was none, or is starting over. We don't know. One thing is for sure, there is only one way we would ever be able to stop something like that from happening in a galaxy near us. And it has nothing to do with grey matter.

What are you even talking about? Everybody knows the universe is only 6000 years old.

Mohawk52 wrote:

]Yeah, you go to Japan where you'll never have to complain about edited manga and anime ever again.

Only because you don't know what it looked like when the manga-ka handed it to his editor...

Manga editing & censorship happens in Japan too.

-t

It's a tough call. Crucifixions were done. But, this is The Crucifix that may be what is referred to in that depiction. If this was the author's intention, then I'd back down too. The crucifix is common to the majority if not all Christian religions. More than just the religious right would take issue on this imo.

However I would like to point out how this mockerism paints all of a certain people as ignorant. And while it is fun to point out this stereotype these days, it is no where close to the modern version. And I am not directing this at you really Ohoni, but at the utter ridiculously that was posted before, I felt I needed to tell a true story, and a sad one at that.

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It's a tough call. Crucifixions were done. But, this is The Crucifix that may be what is referred to in that depiction. If this was the author's intention, then I'd back down too. The crucifix is common to the majority if not all Christian religions. More than just the religious right would take issue on this imo.

Yeah, I wouldn't blame the writers for going along with Viz, they probably just trust Viz to know that they're doing. I blame Viz for not knowing what they're doing.

Cave wrote:

Y'know people are going to say you're just a whiney otaku, and maybe you are.

Yup, I agree with that

I don't care much about this visual edit.

I'm more upset about the inconsistancies of Volume 9.

Was the editor asleep for this??

MorwenLaicoriel wrote:

4KrapSucks wrote: I hate Viz sooo much! What I want to know is if there's any localization company you don't hate.

ummm...Disney I don't hate. I will only continue to hate FUNimation if they don't release Shin-chan uncut. I didn't used to hate ADV until Ghost Stories.

Yeah, but in the case of Manga: 60 Years of Japanese Comics, the issue was sex and beastiality, not the presence of a cross. And in the case of The Passion of the Christ the issue was that it was being interpreted as being anti-semetic and would supposedly incite violence against Jews.

In this case, a crucifiction would supposedly offend a bunch of people and cause problems. Supposedly some Christian soccer mom would get offended that someone fictional person was fictionally crucified. Maybe there is actually someone out there that would be offended by this and start raising hell and cause Viz problems, but I really doubt it.