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The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (TV).


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NGE1113



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:38 pm Reply with quote
A more intriguing website update:

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February 17, 2007 1855 PST
It is soon time for Chinese New Year! And how very appropriate! I am surrounded by bores. It is time to liven things up! I demand a special box by tomorrow! Or else the bores [boars; 2007 is the Chinese Year of the Boar] will be BUNNIES~


The invasion warning with a minor change:
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ANONYMOUS> It occurs in 111 days, be ready

A quick calculation has me at round June 8th.

And more source code stuff:
Code:
<!-- INCOMING TRANSMISSION -->
<!-- Observation base has been established. -->
<!-- Mobile and vampric elements have been sighted. -->
<!-- Attempting to process ghostly images. -->
<!-- Primary target is holding steady at the southwestern location. -->
<!-- Operation ready to initiate as planned. -->
<!-- Requesting final approval for mission go. - LR -->
<!-- It is too dangerous. -->
<!-- Their reactions are volatile. -->
<!-- It is expected, they are carbon-based. -->
<!-- What happens when the thing that they desire for most is able to be achieved... -->
<!-- ...and then abruptly destroyed? A most intriguing experiment. -->
<!-- Do not go through with this, you will anger them. -->
<!-- This plan amuses us greatly. Please proceed. -->
<!-- You are playing with fire. -->
<!-- We are the fire. You are to provide fuel. -->
<!-- It is in position. Give the signal. -->


EDIT: After browsing through the AoD forums, a suggestion was brought up to that countdown number was in binary format. I converted it to base ten format with a calculator, and got 7 in return. A one week invasion notice? Perhaps, since 1000 in binary equals 8 in base ten, and one day has gone by.

EDIT 2: Remembered that NYCC starts next Saturday, which would be 7 days from now.


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Malintex Terek
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:29 am Reply with quote
I watched that AnimeTV video and laughed heartily; not that the dub was spectacularly awful, but that the "review" were so obviously staged/scripted. Perfectly generic and "outsider" comments to the show, talking little of content and much about what KyotoAni "elaborated" on in the anime that isn't in the original novel. It's almost as if someone read the comments of some disgruntled forum-ites and regurgitated recyled criticisms to serve as passable dialogue.

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Did they just call that channel "/a/tv"?!

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Bleach?! As a "best" of all anime? HAHA, OH WOW.

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"No reason to watch this anime. It doesn't suck, and people love it." Rolling Eyes

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That lot has trouble with pronouncing the names of shows without sounding obnoxious. Haruhi redefines anime in the post-Y2K period? oO;

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Azumanga Daioh's dub looks impressive. Funny, that's not how I remembered it. ^^;

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Now, on dub quality, it's more disappointing that I thought. I didn't expect it to be dismal, but above average; it struck me as average, much like the Tsukihime dub. So..ehh, I need more clips to fully evaluate, but for the most part my preconceptions were pretty much on target. In comparison to other dubs, it's still very good, but it's not exceptional. Not even close to being such.


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Murasakisuishou



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:34 am Reply with quote
Malintex Terek wrote:
Now, on dub quality, it's more disappointing that I thought. I didn't expect it to be dismal, but above average; it struck me as average, much like the Tsukihime dub. So..ehh, I need more clips to fully evaluate, but for the most part my preconceptions were pretty much on target. In comparison to other dubs, it's still very good, but it's not exceptional. Not even close to being such.


I personally would like to see part of the spoiler[Nagato/Asakura] fight scene or even some entire scenes from the first episode before I make any solid judgments about the dub. What they did show was rather disjointed, and although we can probably make some accurate criticisms of voice talent, I want to see how the characters 'flow' with each other before I condemn it entirely.

And I dunno, Wendee Lee just sounds too old to be Haruhi.
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quigonkenny



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:02 pm Reply with quote
Murasakisuishou wrote:
Not at all. With the exception of 4Kids dubs (American kids can't handle Japanese!), I've never seen a theme song dubbed or changed, and unless Bang Zoom! wants legions of angry internetters after them, I doubt they'll try. The only remotely similar thing I can think of was when they used the Ready Steady Go opening for FMA instead of Melissa and Undo, but that was for promotional reasons.

Must not have caught any of Naruto, then. The OP and ED for the English dub are original.

However, I agree that they most likely won't redub the Haruhi OP or ED. Both songs are J-pop enough that an English dub would just sound bad, and don't most redubbed OPs and EDs usually involve one of the cast openly singing the song in character?

Now, God Knows and Lost My Music I would expect to get the dub treatment, but only on the English dub track, since it is Haruhi openly singing it (maybe with a third audio track just for Live A Live so you can get both the original Japanese songs and the English dub). But anyone who thinks that means the original won't still be on the DVD is just paranoid.

And for anyone worrying about licensing issues on the music, please keep in mind that the same company who distributed the series in Japan is the one officially licensing it here.
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Murasakisuishou



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:34 pm Reply with quote
quigonkenny wrote:
Murasakisuishou wrote:
Not at all. With the exception of 4Kids dubs (American kids can't handle Japanese!), I've never seen a theme song dubbed or changed, and unless Bang Zoom! wants legions of angry internetters after them, I doubt they'll try. The only remotely similar thing I can think of was when they used the Ready Steady Go opening for FMA instead of Melissa and Undo, but that was for promotional reasons.

Must not have caught any of Naruto, then. The OP and ED for the English dub are original.

However, I agree that they most likely won't redub the Haruhi OP or ED. Both songs are J-pop enough that an English dub would just sound bad, and don't most redubbed OPs and EDs usually involve one of the cast openly singing the song in character?

Now, God Knows and Lost My Music I would expect to get the dub treatment, but only on the English dub track, since it is Haruhi openly singing it (maybe with a third audio track just for Live A Live so you can get both the original Japanese songs and the English dub). But anyone who thinks that means the original won't still be on the DVD is just paranoid.

And for anyone worrying about licensing issues on the music, please keep in mind that the same company who distributed the series in Japan is the one officially licensing it here.


I don't have cable, and either way I'm not much of a Naruto fan x)

Ooh, what about Koi no Mikuru Densetsu? That will most certainly be dubbed, which really scares me to think about o.o
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:31 pm Reply with quote
After hearing the little bit of the dub I'm not too happy so far. I wasn't too opptimistic after they announced the cast and hearing it now I don't feel any more confident. For me Haruhi is probably the worst so far, she just isn't "Haruhi" to me and is the furthest off from the original also she sounds too old. Though I'm getting tired of hearing Crispin Freeman since he seems to be a lead in half the animes out there they could of done worse for Kyon, but he makes him sound like he's in his mid 30's and that just really annoys me. Can't voice actors make high schoolers sound like high schoolers. I think JYB is the worst voice actor going so I'm not going to like his character and lastly the other two leads I think have hard voices to get really wrong and from the bit I heard they sounded pretty good.




As far as anime tv goes I posted my feelings on it in the talk back section, so I'll just copy and paste that here, to sum it up, it was really really bad.

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To start this thing has been "offically" announced for what, easily over a month and they come up with something that's 15 minutes long including an ad, 45 second long intro and a minute closing. I mean actually give the show some content and make it longer, throw in a second show to review/discuss or at least some more content.

The whole debate thing was just poorly done. You had two people who almost didn't talk, two people that never stopped talking and two people that just made pointless comments when they felt like it. They didn't review the show or really debate it for that matter, they just pointed out obvious facts about the show or made side comments with no point. I mean they need to do a better job with that since it is the main part of the show. Also reviewing a Bang Zoom show just bothered me. I mean we got to hear them praise the dub and seeing as it's bang zoom that bothered me, not to mention I don't think it was anywhere near as good as they made it out to be.

Then the fan reviews, that was probably the worst part. They should just get rid of those all together. The "system" to become one I think is poor, I'm sure there's quite a few who are reviewers and probably most are just fans who are going to praise any show they think "roxs!" and pan any show they think is dumb. Like the guy who gave it a 5 for animation and 2 for soundtrack. Please you can not like the show, but that's too much, what's the point of these fan reivews. Not to mention the average is everything combined and just averaged out. It should be an average score that's not an average of the other 4 scores. I personally think the fan reviews are going to be a waste. It I want to see a score like that I'll just go to Anime News Network or even AnimeNfo, at least they will have some method to take out all of the biased people that shouldn't be doing reviews in the first place. When it comes to anime reviews if I'm going to read them I want them to come from places that have built a reputation for it from quality writing and experience, not people who got on because Bang Zoom gives it name appeal.

Lastly the site isn't even finished! How can so much of the site be "coming soon". It should of all been done by the time of launch. That's just a poor job by the people doing this.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:03 am Reply with quote
Check the website. BIG updates! Shocked

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BREAKING NEWS: The Adventures of the ASOS Brigade: Episode 005 World Premiere at New York Comic Con Haruhi Panel... details within 48 hours


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February 18, 2007 2302 PST
Hallo everyone! Tomorrows a holiday in America, so my friend asked me to take care of the site whiles she's gone, nyoro~! Here's a picture of some box she said had to go up today. I grabs it off her desk and added some logos I found! Anime exclamation Goodnight!


Anyone getting a broken image link? That's what you get for using "that" emblem! Laughing
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Amasa



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:13 am Reply with quote
darkchibi07 wrote:
Anyone getting a broken image link? That's what you get for using "that" emblem! Laughing

Lol, I just had the weirdest experience.... I was in a desert and a giant cockroach attacked me...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:55 pm Reply with quote
Looks like the sequel of that live-action version will be Suzumiya Hahiru no Shoushitsu, adapted from the 4th novel. Source (the personal blog of a porn star; no pornography inside).

What's next? Faith/hello avataria?
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omnistry



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:18 pm Reply with quote
Amasa wrote:
darkchibi07 wrote:
Anyone getting a broken image link? That's what you get for using "that" emblem! Laughing

Lol, I just had the weirdest experience.... I was in a desert and a giant cockroach attacked me...


Haruhi: present bunny suit!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:30 pm Reply with quote
Yotsuba told me earlier today there's a "Gaé Blog" from an allegedly Japanese reviewer of the AnimeTV podcast, commenting on the Haruhi dub clips. Apparently, it's listed on the MySpace account...? It has been translated, apparently. Any verification on this?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:48 pm Reply with quote
Yup, that is correct. Kyon posted a link to the Japanese review of the dub on his myspace:

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=139254574&blogID=231011944&MyToken=750989f4-4eb6-41eb-b688-1b6768795df4
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:03 pm Reply with quote
omnistry wrote:
darkchibi07 wrote:
Anyone getting a broken image link? That's what you get for using "that" emblem! Laughing
Haruhi: present bunny suit!

And it appears that Haruhi is indeed thinking this:
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February 19, 2007 1800 PST
Wha... WHAT THE HECK IS THAT? Laundry lint? Last week's bento set?! This is a mockery! It is time for DIVINE PUNISHMENT. bunny... Bunny... BUNNY!!! SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE BUNNY!!!

And an unknown person's reaction to this revelation (from the source code):
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<!-- D: -->


EDIT: More source code...
Code:
<!-- Uh oh... it appears we have a problem ^^ -->
<!-- D..d..don't want to be bunny!!!!! -->
<!-- A most unbelievable event has just occurred. This poor thing left last night's update in charge of her good friend, and unsurprisingly the website reacted in an odd fashion to an odd girl. Or was it the girl? -->
<!-- I seem to be surrounded by odd circumstances lately. Then again, they are all very odd people, so perhaps this is actually normal? Am I being retaliated against on a cosmic scale for past transgressions? -->
<!-- The vision of her in a bunny suit is most intriguing... No, I must put those thoughts aside.-->
<!-- Alright, alright, enough of that. You don't really want to see her in a bunny suit, do you? -->
<!-- Are you suggesting you'd take her place? ^^ -->
<!-- ... -->
<!-- The trap is set. -->
<!-- Release the enzymic lifeform. -->
<!-- Soon we will witness the reactions. -->
<!-- This is unexpected. We do not know their potential reactions. -->
<!-- That is exactly why we must do it. -->
<!-- Our battles are almost over with this. We need one final measurement. -->
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:53 am Reply with quote
Mirrinus wrote:
Yup, that is correct. Kyon posted a link to the Japanese review of the dub on his myspace:

Kyon link.


Positively pa-thetic. As if an "authentic" Japanese person would care all that much about the Haruhi dub; not considering the differences in what the Japanese look at in what we in the English speaking world do (I'm thinking back to when Yotsuba 'invaded' 2chan), that "analysis" sounds very much like an English-language native speaker writing in Japanese, with Bandai capitalizing on it being written in a foreign language to add "legitimacy" to their selections; heck, the translation even mentions Alucard. This is simmilar to an incident I hear of where a reporter asked a seventh generation man of Latino descent what it feels like to live in Mexico. Rolling Eyes

For shame.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:35 pm Reply with quote
Hmm... did you take a look at the rest of that Japanese site? It's pretty huge, and covers a lot of recent anime. I'm not sure I can agree with your assumptions on it, seeing as yours seem to be rather unfounded. So what if someone who claims to be Japanese mentions Alucard? Are you saying that no one would ever care about how one of their favorite shows is dubbed in a different language? That's a pretty extreme thing to say, founded on such little substance.
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