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tenton, according to Shiroi, the Japanese R2 Haruhi DVDs still only use a total bitrate of 8 megabits/s on average...higher settings such as 10 megabits/s would produce far better quality, so I wouldn't say that Haruhi is too much to handle. It just may not have been mastered and encoded as well as it could have been.

dormcat, wow that is surprising, thanks for the info. You've also made me curious, what is the video quality like in anime R3 Taiwan releases? Is it a perfect duplicate (exact same encode) of the Japanese R2 releases? What about the releases for other regions? Although I guess I should not be overly concerned with the European countries since they use PAL instead of NTSC.

I think the blurry issue merits further investigation. Shiroi, do you have other R2 anime releases besides Haruhi that you could compare for us as well? Also, if you have time, maybe a screenshot of a R1 vs R2 Haruhi during a normal scene (not the opening) would be useful too to check if the blurryness affects the whole show or just the opening.

i just watch vol. 2
Did i miss something, or did they just realese this due in chronological order instead of the original tv release that they should be in. Is it just me or does anyone else find this weird or is pissed off because i dont know about you guys but i don't like waching a series with the ending in the middle

It was announced that the DVDs would be in the chronological order a long time ago and that's how the R2s are.

http://asosbrigade.com/oplet01/

They broadcasted it in a different order since there were fans who had already read the novels so they wanted to do something different or something to that effect. So yes, you did miss something ^^;

that is one of the reason why I bought for this reason the LE they includes the dvd in broadcast order.

Porcupine wrote:

You've also made me curious, what is the video quality like in anime R3 Taiwan releases?

Tony and I made a comparison for Saikano here.

Porcupine wrote:

Is it a perfect duplicate (exact same encode) of the Japanese R2 releases?

There's no "perfect duplicate" anywhere, but those distributed with exact same episodes-per-disc patterns are at least on par with (and in some special cases, better than) R2JP releases and are generally better than R1NA releases with more episodes per disc.

Porcupine wrote:

What about the releases for other regions?

Beats me.

lvgarrett wrote:

Did i miss something, or did they just realese this due in chronological order instead of the original tv release that they should be in.

Where have you been in the past few months, mate? Wink

under a rock apparently i don't usually get english anime i quess i need to spend more time in the forms

lvgarrett wrote:

under a rock apparently i don't usually get english anime i quess i need to spend more time in the forms

Since you "don't usually get english anime," may I ask what your native language is?

I'm having the weirdest problem. I wonder if anyone else out there has experienced the same problems with their Limited Edition Volume 2 Haruhi Suzumiya dvds? Both disk play fine, but whenever I put the dvds in my dvd player, the player makes a kind of grinding sound, like it's having a hard time playing the disk or something, but the disk is playing fine. I tried both dvds in every dvd player in the house, all of which are different brands, and I get the same sound. It's really weird. Anyone else out there ever experienced this as well?

Maybe these dvds are as complicated as the His and Her Circumstances volume 1 disk. Those disk were so complicated that they were reported to crash some dvd players. Maybe this is a similar problem.

[EDIT: Merged your thread with the main Haruhi one. -TK]

I saw this post so finally dragged my lazy rear to the post office where my set had been sitting since Tuesday. Played both disks on my PC and two different DVD players and did not hear anything strange out of the players. Maybe you got defective disks, you should probably ask for an exchange, even if they play fine that grinding noise cannot be a good sign in any way.

That happens with almost all of my DVDs. But they usually play fine after I eject and reinsert them. I guess that's what I get for making "the absolute cheapest one I can find" my only criteria for buying a DVD player.

dormcat wrote:

I've noticed that there are users constantly trying to submit the OP theme spelled as "Bouken desho desho?", quoting Wikipedia in English and Aya Hirano's official site (without romanization, of course), claiming in error reports that "de-show" is a misspelling. Well, let's take a look at the authentic item:
Please stop submitting "desho," or I'll have to start banning people.

Maybe it is a pun on the original title, since the motif or style of the album and the picture is somehow portrayed as a performer from a "show". Maybe it's a promotional tagline for the album. But I still believe that the title "Bouken desho desho?" is more appropriate since it is a direct romanization of the Japanese title in the front cover, and the track listing.. But if the line de-show is not used as a tagline but an alternative title, then let it be..

On July 7th in one of the official Japanese Haruhi website, they posted a flash video. Unfortunately that website got hammered badly, and it's offline. So here's an alternative link:

http://haruhiism.com/

Now comes the million dollar question; guess what that refers to! Wink

(that is if you can stomach through 22 min. of the video)

Ongaku, I also think it is probably your DVDs just being slightly unbalanced/bent and causing that noise. I don't have that problem with either of my Haruhi Vol. 2 disks on any player or computer of mine, though. But a few of my other disks (CDs moreso than DVDs) make grinding noises in my computer, too. But it usually does not affect the playback, so I don't consider it a real problem.

Wow, the ANN Encyclopedia does indeed call the OP song Bouken De-show De-show or something like that. Is that how it is supposed to be? I see dormcat's post quoted but I don't know where the post it came from is.

I think that's weird too. The official R1 releases don't spell it that way. Shouldn't the official R1 releases (both the DVDs and CDs) be the guideline, regardless of what is idealistically right or wrong? I don't really care either way though.

dormcat, just checked that thread and Tony's images are all gone now so I can't compare anymore, but I get the point (R3TW releases are generally on par with R2JP in terms of video/audio quality). I thought I might add that 6-7 episodes per disc is exactly the normal amount that fits comfortably at typical North American bitrates. So Saikano isn't in any worse quality than normal, it's just average (bad) quality by our standards. Most R1 discs have 4-5 episodes and use the exact same bitrate but just leave 30% of the disc space empty and wasted. Usually there is enough wasted space to still encode the show at 9-10 megabits/s if they really wanted, so I really don't understand why they waste all that space (stupidity or sour grapes syndrome being the only 2 explanations I can think of).

vekoux wrote:

Maybe it is a pun on the original title, since the motif or style of the album and the picture is somehow portrayed as a performer from a "show". Maybe it's a promotional tagline for the album. But I still believe that the title "Bouken desho desho?" is more appropriate since it is a direct romanization of the Japanese title in the front cover, and the track listing.. But if the line de-show is not used as a tagline but an alternative title, then let it be..

The official English CD romanizes it as "Bouken Desho Desho?". Although they still left the "Bouken De-show De-show" part in the CD as well. I'm not sure if this can override the spelling or not...

Porcupine wrote:

I think that's weird too. The official R1 releases don't spell it that way. Shouldn't the official R1 releases (both the DVDs and CDs) be the guideline, regardless of what is idealistically right or wrong? I don't really care either way though.

Technically they also call it the other one also. Look behind the CD. And I don't necessarily trust R1 releases either (do you know how many errors they have in credits?). I would trust the Japanese releases more.

darkchibi07 wrote:

On July 7th in one of the official Japanese Haruhi website, they posted a flash video. Unfortunately that website got hammered badly, and it's offline. So here's an alternative link:

http://haruhiism.com/

Now comes the million dollar question; guess what that refers to! Wink

(that is if you can stomach through 22 min. of the video)

I would have watched all of this but I don't have the time right now. Ya, I'm not really sure what it was referring to... I'm sure it will be answered soon enough though...

"unbalanced"? That really worries me a bit. In a way, it makes sense. When I received my order, the front of the dvd case was bulging outward a bit. I guess I should take that as a definite sign of something being wrong with the disks inside. What would cause that condition to occur anyway?

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