Forum - View topicThe Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (TV).
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dormcat
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Copyrights, yes; trademarks, no. |
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omar235
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Well the one in FLCL wasn't a black bow tie one like the one Haruhi was wearing when she was at the cultural festival. Having the trade mark doesn't mean all bunny suits fall under the catagory just the one that is trade marked. Reffering to the one in the link dorm cat put up. http://dotclue.org/archives/002601.html |
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crow-kun
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The Daicon one didn't have a black bow tie and that caused problems too and Haruko was wearing the same outfit. |
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penguintruth
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As far as Daicon, I'm sure it was the laundry list of OTHER copywritten properties that were the real problem in licensing it for domestic consumption, not something silly and trivial like a bunny outfit.
We're talking Gundam, Yamato, Star Wars, Superman, Spiderman, and many, many others. |
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HitokiriShadow
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I see. Well, then the problem seems a bit more realistic, although there is still the issue of some other anime (and video games, apparently) having the bunnygirl outfit. |
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undeadben
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Anyone can use a bunny girl outfit, but I think the deal here is that this is the Playboy bunny girl outfit. Easily recognizable by the collar and bowtie, as it said in the link dormcat posted. If they can alter or remove the bowtie, I think they'd be ok.
ETA: Here's another pic of the official trademarked outfit. And here is the Haruhi figure again, (I couldn't find a good pic of Haruhi in a bunny costume from the series, that is weird). Bunny Haruhi This was probably actually done as an homage to the the original Playboy Bunny, they even included the white fluffy tail and shirt cuffs. |
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P€|\||§_|\/|ast@
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Quite a good observation and point, ben. Yes the Playboy bunny outfit is a trademark and probably won't necessarily apply to copyright law. Copyrights are more like works of fiction and certain types of artwork like film and music, isn't that right dormcat? However there are all the copyrighted works that use the playboy bunny logo and images so it might be a little tricky.
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PantsGoblin
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Wow, that pretty much is the same outfit, down to most details... I didn't know we were talking about something that was this similar... I wasn't really buying it at first when dormcat posted the link, but now... I'm thinking this may actually be a problem now... Hopefully, all they have to do it just alter it slightly in order to make it acceptable. Edit: Guess I probably should have actually looked at the links in the journal, since the outfit was pictured there too... |
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undeadben
Posts: 1212 Location: West Texas |
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Thanks. Not that I spend a lot of time looking at girls in bunny costumes, but this was probably the most fun I had looking for material for a post here. 
Ok, first off, if I remember correctly, been many years since my last business class in college; patents protect inventions, trademarks protect symbols and names or any mark that identifies something, and copywrights protect intellectual properties, any written, music, visual, or artistic work. (Ack, maybe I should just check at answers.com. Meh, someone will correct me if I am wrong.) So what we are dealing with here is a trademark, but it is only the outfit that is the problem as the logo is not used. But I still think that if enough is altered they can get away with using it. I have seen some really nice (or maybe not so nice for purists) editing jobs to clean up things like flesh wounds and blood in other anime, so a couple tweaks here for a bunny costume would probably not be difficult. And it has been a while since I have seen it, but only Haruhi dawns this particular outfit and I think it is only complete in a few scenes, the concert being the major one. |
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Samurai-with-glasses
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The question is: Is it really a problem at all?
Apart from the obvious similarity, and a short random article from the net, I don't see any haggling or complaining or proclamation of defense from Playboy at all. If Haruhi is as big a property as it is supposed to be, and Playboy really took some actions to prevent it to come here (for very little reason, anyway, unless one wants to argue that Playboy is even interested in the animation industry...), I'm sure somebody would catch some wind and give a real news out already. Besides, if they even know about it, they'd probably consider that free advertising. |
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dormcat
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Few, if any, would believe that theory -- if Playboy hadn't done their share with Daicon III and IV. |
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Samurai-with-glasses
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I'd still find it rather unbelievable though. Edit: quote messed up; gah, I hate this damn "anti-flood" thing. Can't make quick edits... |
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P€|\||§_|\/|ast@
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Personally, I would not like to see any editing done at all. The only alterations to anime that I think should be acceptable are subtitles and voice overs if done well. The importance of preserving the cultural and visual integrity of the artform is far higher than doing it to please some corporate moguls just so the show can be legally brought over to N.A. I'd rather see it not get licensed at all than have these changes be made. This always happens when alterations are made to anime, some purists (like me) raise a stink about how things were edited, especially if it is done poorly and looks obvious.
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HitokiriShadow
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The bunny ears in the show are already a lot longer than the real ones (thanks the difference between cartoon physics and real life physics) so maybe they could just take the buttons off the cufflinks and/or change the color of the outfit (since all of the Playboy Bunny outfits I've seen are black) and they'd be okay?
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dormcat
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To be released on Dec. 15, 2006. Enlarged DVD cover (note: link contains pornography; ADULTS ONLY!) I should have found it a week ago... |
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