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Bored_Ming
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:28 am
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I was not really happy with ep1. But 2 & 3 have made up for it and will guarantee that I will follow this to the end. I no longer wish for the main characters to be eaten and I like that they are bonding quickly. Evidenced by the way everyone in the group looked to each other when the conflict was brewing on the bus. I'm also liking that they have backed off on the Nurse character being over the top ditzy. The way she had to talk herself through running over the zombies showed she was taking this all very seriously. So all in all I'm glad I stuck with my 3 episode rule.
One a side note : Japanese highschoolers really need to start playing more D&D. Rule #1 NEVER SPLIT THE PARTY!
Oh and FLAMING ZOMBIES RULE!
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:50 am
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egoist wrote: | Also, was everyone looking away when that teacher fed his student to the zombies? That can't be... |
I was under the impression that they were all going: ZOMG! QUICK GET TO THE BUS! and therefore not looking behind them to see what was going on. Being that the kid had a twisted ankle, he would have been at the back, in the opposite direction of where everyone was running as fast as they could. While Takeshi and the others already on the bus might have been looking in that direction, their view of someone who had fallen down would be obscured due to the people between them.
Bored_Ming wrote: | One a side note : Japanese highschoolers really need to start playing more D&D. Rule #1 NEVER SPLIT THE PARTY! |
"They" are slow and blind, and so more easily avoided by small groups. Splitting the party temporarily isn't that big of a problem.
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DuskyPredator
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:03 am
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Oh yeah they are blind, but have good hearing, and when a sound sets them off they seem to be able to zone in and suround the survivors. Kind of gave me another thought of Left 4 Dead where one person could be an idiot and accidently set a soud off, and then get swamped.
Seems that it will be very important for the characters to keep their cool in dangerous circumstances, watch suroundings and not scream all the time. Oh and don't wear inpractical things that can be grabbed like useless towels, honestly it so often is the source of ironic parts in the horror genre.
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Alestal
Joined: 22 Apr 2005
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:51 am
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Loved this episode, love this series. Its awesome. The dynamics are so interesting, this is a very well planned out series with multi-dimensional characters and I am very excited to see what happens. I wish other animes could incorporate simular dynamics and apply them into their own genres.
Honestly, according to my common sense it is the "heroes" that die in these types of situations. I can only think that rushing into a city without a plan or a full understanding of the situation will lead to their demise. If their families survived up until this point of the infection stage then they must be at least potencially capable of living for some period of time. Logical thinking>Emotional tendencies.
Why do the crazy apocalyptic-crazed-"new order" type people always survive in the situations??? WHY?
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Miranox
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:10 pm
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Alestal wrote: | Why do the crazy apocalyptic-crazed-"new order" type people always survive in the situations??? WHY? |
Probably because they're the only ones who prepare for zombie apocalypses and the like.
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egoist
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:57 pm
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Dorcas_Aurelia wrote: |
While Takeshi and the others already on the bus might have been looking in that direction, their view of someone who had fallen down would be obscured due to the people between them. |
Yes, that's what I was referring to. They couldn't be obscured by the ones in front since within the bus their view should be wider (higher ground). I could try taking a screenshot but then I'd be late to work.
But it's not like I'm asking for precision all over the place. It's just that this time it would've been against their belief of saving as many as possible, thus letting one who'd do such a thing join them would never happen. That's why I wanted to see that worked on a little better.
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kuromeru-kitsune
Joined: 18 Jul 2010
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:41 pm
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Quote: | 12 episodes will probably get them to the end of volume 5. I hope they have season 2... |
Well, if there is 1 ep per manga chapter than that means they will only be halfway (abouts) through to vol. 5. 12 eps mgiht be a decent place to leave the anime, to be honest. Going any further would mean that they would have to cliffhang our make a gross 'filler' ending in order to break it off.
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Annf
Joined: 20 Feb 2009
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:12 pm
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One complaint I've seen about the manner in which this was converted from comic to animation, is that the comic has a lot of panels that take place simultaneously or with ambiguous timing, but in the animated version, the presentation makes it feel like they take place sequentially, and, by necessity, gives the action defined timing.
Unlike when reading a comic, we're directly aware of the passage of time, during which other characters should presumably be doing something, but they aren't, which leads to a feeling of other characters standing around obliviously while the current spotlighted character(s) take their turn to act in isolation.
So you wind up with the audience wondering about the aforementioned teacher going unobserved, or about Hisashi and Takashi seemingly standing around doing nothing for ages while Rei battles their first zombie by herself in episode 1, and other things like that.
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LordofNoe
Joined: 07 Aug 2009
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:17 pm
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I wasn't so sure about this one at the first episode. It seemed out of place to have so much fanservice in a horror anime, but the thickening plot of episode three made me not care so much.
I have to guess that the teacher's cruel (but logical) treatment of his student, and Rei's aversion of him are all linked. He seems very convinced that power solves everything, which is why he quickly suggested putting somebody in a leadership position. He's the obvious antagonist, and I can't wait for him to be take his place in the food chain towards the end of the series.
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kuromeru-kitsune
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:35 pm
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Gotta love the clicking noise the biker Zombie makes when he's trying to bite Takashi (and what the hell did Rei hit him with???)
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:47 pm
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It was one of those tiles they have that cover the gutters on the side of the street. I think they're made of concrete.
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Blood-
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:30 am
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Episode 4
Could really have done without the extended re-capish start which took up half of the eppie. Oh well, I guess to maintain the high level of animation quality, they had to cut corners somewhere, but I hope that doesn't become a recurring feature of the show.
The new stuff was all great, though. I'm looking forward to watching the Lecherous Fascist Teacher thing play itself out.
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Skylark
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:55 am
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That teacher dude really pisses me off. Aside from that; episode 4 and we get a 10 minute recap already? I somewhat expected something like this though; I doubted that a series could have an extended amount of really high quality animation without, as Blood- put it, cutting some corners. I found it really annoying that they put new bits of story in there as well, because in places I just wanted to skip it but then a new bit would pop up for 2-3 seconds and then go back to recap. Not a good move imo.
Not much content really for the episode either. Nothing really happened; they found a gun, used it, filled up the bike and that was basically it.
The next episode looks much more interesting at least.
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Blood-
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:07 pm
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Skylark wrote: | Not much content really for the episode either. Nothing really happened; they found a gun, used it, filled up the bike and that was basically it. |
Your summary is technically accurate but a little dismissive. Frankly, I like the fact they made a bit of hay about finding the gun. That's a more realistic portrayal of how kids would react in Japan where handguns are a real rarity. Also, I liked the fact that they faced a human, as opposed to zombie antagonist this time. It's one thing to bash in an Undead skull but quite another to kill a human - even if he is a total prick who has it coming. Sort of changed things up a bit. And we got a bit more development of the relationship between the two leads. Definitely not an episode chock-a-block full of plot, but satisfying regardless, imo. HotD is actually a fairly slow moving series - appropriate for a show about slow-moving zombies, I guess.
Oh and I smiled at the SHAUN gas station...
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Hentai_JP
Joined: 12 Feb 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:02 pm
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Blood- wrote: | Oh and I smiled at the SHAUN gas station... |
I'd say the whole "Z-Day + 1" is also a Shawn of the dead reference as Z-Day term comes directly from there.
The re-cap is... fine. It wasn't completely unexpected. But the actual new story is outstanding. "Finding the gun" scene was very realistic and later thug incident really brought main characters closer together. As I loved how Rei protected her man in episode three I love how Takashi protected his girl in episode four - stuff of great romance . I wonder what nazi teacher is going to do next. Sure he is anti-hero but I don't hate him, yet. As long as he brings other characters together and doesn't do anything illogical (like being evil for the sake of it; as opposed for personal gain) the fascist teacher is a welcome.
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